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Awesome of you guys to do this. Looking forward to helping support!

Any word on any different colorways for the Burnside? I was hoping to get one for Florida States but haven't found one I liked yet If not I still got my trusty dusty yellow burnside and will be ready to rock with it!

I Have the same dilemma. It seems as if all the colorways I want have been shipped off to Europe.

This brings up a question for OneDrop and the industry as a whole:

Why do manufacturers release colorways to retailers on an "exclusive" basis?

The easy, simple and I believe outdated answer - is to provide new retailers publicity and traffic to their sites by consumers seeking this exclusive, cool colorway. But with the HUGE number of online retailers, why would YYE want to be saddled with a ho-hum colorway while some upstart website gets the one everybody wants? How is that fair to YYE?

I, currently want a colorway only available from a website in England. I live in Portland OR. So, to get the colorway I want, the yoyo has to go half-way around the world and back - at my expense. That is not only inefficient -it is an expensive, time-consuming frustration that I will not do. That is why I have not bought a Burnside yet.

CLYW does it right when they give all the retailers a wide variety of colorways. If I can't find it one place, I can find it somewhere else. That way all the websites get traffic. When YYE sells out of a popular colorway consumers will be driven to look at the smaller sites they otherwise would not have used. That way, YYE is rewarded for their popularity and the smaller sites get a chance to participate also.

PS: What is with colorways for the Burnside? Does anyone think about what these schemes look like when they spin? Easy on the black!!!!

You forget that some people like the light and super dark mix because it creates the most contrast when spinning.

As far as the colorways selection argument, I'm somewhat with you, but Onedrop does it in part to help the "little guy." Andre has the best site for sales already so he doesn't always need badass colorways. However, some smaller euro retailers don't have the same fame. A badass colorway helps put them on the map. You overpaying (maybe not that much) for that colorway helps get them going. Just smile and pay, no one is trying to cheat you for malicious profit gain.

Why on Earth do I need to just "smile and pay" for the post office to ship my yoyo around the globe? That is just plain ridiculous. I have no problem paying the retailer his markup - but shipping from Europe is way expensive as well as time consuming. All for a yoyo that came from Oregon to begin with? And the point of this post was - that I am not willing to pay with my money and time.

Can anyone say : Nickel Burnside?? I mean - that IS what everyone is waiting for ...right?

The idea of exclusives is not new, and it takes place in a lot of industries for a lot of reasons. In fact, it seems you answered your own question when you wrote: "The easy, simple and I believe outdated answer - is to provide new retailers publicity and traffic to their sites by consumers seeking this exclusive, cool colorway. But with the HUGE number of online retailers, why would YYE want to be saddled with a ho-hum colorway while some upstart website gets the one everybody wants? How is that fair to YYE?"

And to answer your question, they wouldn't, which is why they get exclusive color ways of their own. If you want it bad enough, you'll pay the shipping. If not, then look elsewhere. If that doesn't make sense, I'm not sure it ever will.

Also, not sure where you're looking, but OneDrop did supply YYE with a variety of Burnside color ways (8, actually). And, last I heard, there's more on the way.

Yeah, CLYW is doing it right. There's how many color ways of Chief at YYE? Oh, three. How many color ways of Canvas available at YYE? Oh wait, zero. Weird. Oh yeah, you get to pay a premium of $135 also. Now, let's check out the small guy. Take highspeedyoyo for example. Yeah, they don't have either of those CLYWs.

P.S. - I love Chris, but let's be real here.

True story, Ven.
YYE currently has solid colors as well as
-Burning Ember Edition
-YYE/Splash Edition
and BLACK, something i have not seen anywhere else.
Soooo many sick Burnsides on the market right now, i only fear i wont be able to 'Catch em all'

I will stop quoting since it is so long....

I am sorry Rebelthrow, Respectfully, I do not understand your answer. You say:

"And to answer your question, they wouldn't, which is why they get exclusive color ways of their own."

... They - are - who? and they wouldn't - what?? The entire thread of this is not clear to me. Please clarify your dangling-participles.

And as for "So many sick colorways available now" - how come there are so many Burnsides languishing at retailers right now? I count at least 50 available right now - that no one is buying. That includes solids.

The point of this post is that if I could get the colorways available to people in Europe - there would be 49. As for there being 49 - that is not my issue.

As usual the reality is more complex than it is being made out to be. I personally deal with all our resellers/partners (about 40 of them) and they all have different needs and different budgets. We cater to them all and offer flexible options.

We offer both in stock items and custom orders. For in stock items we don't mandate minimums which allows small stores to be able to order. For customs the minimums are low. Most "exclusive" colorways are custom orders - ie, ordered at the specific request of the store. Build to order! Yoyoexpert is one such store. The charge that we "saddle" YYE with sub par colorways is insulting - especially considering that YYE chooses the colorways. If you don't like the colorways your favorite store is carrying, let them know what you would like. I happen to think the YYE colorway choices are awesome. The Burning Ember Burnside is one of my favorites. For in stock colorways, I'll often divy those up between a few stores so not all specials end up at only one place. I feel that if a store orders a custom colorway, that it makes sense that they are the only ones who get it. So we offer some of both.

Based on what I know of the other yoyo companies, we are the only ones who offer this kind of flexibility and sell to all stores.

You mention that YYE has 3 different Chiefs. Right now they have 7 different Burnsides and if you look at our other models you'll find something similar. Highspeedyoyo.com has 2 different Burnides and no Chiefs.

If a particular colorway that you want is only available at a European store then that is just bad luck rather than some kind of policy issue. That store placed a custom order. I'm shocked with all the good Burnside options that you can't find one you like. We have a bunch out for anodizing as we speak so you'll get even more opportunity to find one. Nickel is in process - as always, we do every model in nickel.

By the way, thank you for the support you've been giving us on the yoyoexpert forum

David, Shawn,

You know me - I am not a total fanboy like some in all my posts. But I LOVE OneDrop and everything you guys do. Please take any of my comments with this in mind.

You are right. I'll get my Burnside - sooner or later.

Now try imagining living in Europe where often you have to order from America/Japan if you want a yoyo. In Europe the two companies which you can really expect special colourways from are One Drop and Yoyofactory. There are some execptions like the Dragon Chiefs but often you have to deal with getting a solid colour. Now convincing my parents to buy me a $110 yoyo is hard enough now add into that the fact that you will have to ship from the US, doing this without using whatever you have stored up for the (insert yoyo that you really really want here), which will likely also be from the US. In America you guys will get the nickels and countless other colourways that over in the UK I haven't got a hope of affording. Be grateful for the many awsome colours and yoyos you can get in the US because in Europe you may even have to order from abroad just to get that yoyo.

end rant

Geezer, I should have chimed in earlier It would probably have helped with your issue. David hit it right on the head. One Drop is unlike any other company when it comes to ordering yo-yos for a store. Other companies will get bunch of yo-yos anodized with various splashes, washes, or fades and then ask the retailer which ones they want. One Drop gives the stores total freedom on the colorways... within reason. The Flamethrower colorway that we sell at High Speed is a perfect example. that was Brett's baby and has been a pretty big hit for us, same with the Relic CODE1, my all time favorite CODE1 colorway which One Drop allowed us to also ship standard with brass ultralights instead of stock CODE1 side effects. This level of freedom is a godsend for retailers who want to standout in an ever increasing crowd. That being said, I can completely understand your confusion. Most consumers are unaware of how One Drop interacts with the retailers. On a side note, I am betting One Drop has seen some colorways that have made them wish they had though it up for themselves. I know I am kicking myself for not suggesting the Burning Ember colorway to Brett.

Now with that out of the way I have a question about these upcoming Nickel Burnside. Will it be polished like the Dietz?

Wow, I didn't know my post caused a stir haha. I'm a sucker for custom colorways and there are some really cool ones that I'm sure many people will like, just not my flavor yet. Unless one that went to Europe, I might have to check those shops to see what they have. I don't like the two YYE has and the ones that HighSpeed have are the best I have seen so far, but still I will wait till I find Exactly what I want that just catches my eye and makes me say YES! Haha. I know I have been wanting to Alien Green colorway so maybe if one of those comes out for the Burnside that could be a winner. I got the Broken Hearted Code 1 and that is a beautiful throw. The NQP Dietz that was released here in store was very nice too and for the price I had to have it. I do like my Yellow Burnside just because I don't have a yellow throw, and don't mind waiting. But you really got to get one of these. They are just that good!

I think I want either a Nickel one, Thunderstorm, or Alien one. Probably which ever comes first I'll grab. However, maybe there will be one that I'm not expecting jump out and say BUY BUY BUY haha. Will just have to wait and see. Thankfully I'm pretty patient right now and in no rush.

I didn't see it as a stir being caused, more a voicing of opinion. Here is the one thing no one has thought of yet. It might not be a bad idea for someone to start up a thread about colorways they would like to see. It might give the retailers an idea of what their customers want and who knows, your colorway may end up being chosen.

I would vote for the "Brett in a yoyo bunny suit" colorway or the "saintrobyn stuck in a tree" colorway. They would be sure to bring a smile to yoyoers everywhere...except for maybe a couple of yoyoers in Ohio....

db

It's put up or sjut up time db... show us those colorways, I have no problem with my name on one.

Oh, and you forgot the most important colorway... the Shawnessy.

what about a "Brett Bumper" colourway to celebrate all of Brett's bumps to the head

That one would be a black & blue acid wash base with red splatter....!
Picture a Thunderstorm colorway attacked by zombies...

db

That... Actually sounds freaking awesome.