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Radau
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:13 pm Posts: 9
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 White M1
Pretty random question and I'm not sure if anyone has tried this BUT...
Anyone had any success painting / dying / some other process of colouring an M1 white?
If so, any tips? Would I need to get this done proffessionally? Is it even possible?
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| Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:01 pm |
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vguitars
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:05 pm Posts: 2971 Location: Cleveland
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 Re: White M1
White Anodization isnt possible at the moment God knows I have asked LOL..
Paint seems to be the only way or maybe powder coating but im not sure how thick powder coating would be..
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| Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:17 pm |
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throwinskater22
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2009 2:02 pm Posts: 63
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 Re: White M1
really?? because Jensen kimmett said that it can be done. but its really expensive and few people can do it.
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| Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:10 pm |
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Jay
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:42 am Posts: 376 Location: Eugene Oregon
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We (Shawn and I, plus our "stealth" team member Dirty Birdy) have spent a lot of time and energy looking into powder coating. The bottom line is that it's not as easy a problem as it first appears. First off, powder coating is THICK, therefore HEAVY. Since the thickness of the coating is not consistent from place to place on the yoyo halves it causes vibe. Vibe = Low quality yoyos, One Drop = High Quality yoyos :^)
Another issue is the bearing seat. The bearing seat has to be coated with something that is both hard and consistently high tolerance. Anodizing finish has a VERY consistent thickness. Powder coating is neither thin enough nor consistent enough to hold tolerances on the bearing seat. See????
Keep those interesting questions coming, you never know when your question will lead to that magical technological BREAKTHROUGH that will lead to white yoyo's.
Think Big. We do!
Best Regards, Jay One Drop Creative Team R&D Department.
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:29 am |
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dirty birdy
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:00 am Posts: 2692 Location: Area 51
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 Re: White M1
 Rats...I've been exposed before my peers.... db
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:54 am |
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Jay
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:42 am Posts: 376 Location: Eugene Oregon
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 Re: White M1
DB,
You are the KING of non-sequitors! Long live the king! :^)
Best Regards, Jay One Drop Creative Team R&D Department
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:01 am |
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dirty birdy
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:00 am Posts: 2692 Location: Area 51
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 Re: White M1
dirty birdy wrote: ...I've been exposed before my peers.... First one to name the reference for the above quote wins a bow of reverence and admiration from the dirty birdy.
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:14 am |
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Jay
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:42 am Posts: 376 Location: Eugene Oregon
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 Re: White M1
We could potentially make some M1's in Plastic, if it was made out of Delrin (a dense type of plastic) or HDPE, the yoyo could be white. Delrin is super smooth. Almost like Teflon. The problem with this idea is that unless we can find a plastic with the same (or similar) density as Aluminum, it would make a terrible yoyo. Each yoyo we design has to be carefully shaped so that the weight comes out just under 68 grams. This is a laborious process of trial and error (T&E), or as we like to call it "Iterative Targeting (IT)." Which is distinctly different from target and error. T&E is random IT is not. IN IT you get closer to your goals with each shot. See?? Think Big. We do!
Best Regards, Jay One Drop Creative Team R&D Department
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:44 am |
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Erik
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:51 am Posts: 579 Location: Howell, NJ
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 Re: White M1
dirty birdy wrote: dirty birdy wrote: ...I've been exposed before my peers....
First one to name the reference for the above quote wins a bow of reverence and admiration from the dirty birdy. I'm going to go with Pink Floyd, "The Wall." That line is from the last song on the album, "The Trial".... -- Erik
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:06 am |
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dirty birdy
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:00 am Posts: 2692 Location: Area 51
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Erik
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:51 am Posts: 579 Location: Howell, NJ
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Thank you. Thank you very much. I'd like to thank my family for their support and..and..and Oh, I'm just so overwhelmed I can't think of everyone!
--Erik
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:53 am |
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Vendetta
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:22 pm Posts: 2478 Location: California
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 Re: White M1
Jay wrote: We could potentially make some M1's in Plastic, if it was made out of Delrin (a dense type of plastic) or HDPE, the yoyo could be white. Delrin is super smooth. Almost like Teflon. The problem with this idea is that unless we can find a plastic with the same (or similar) density as Aluminum, it would make a terrible yoyo. Each yoyo we design has to be carefully shaped so that the weight comes out just under 68 grams. This is a laborious process of trial and error (T&E), or as we like to call it "Iterative Targeting (IT)." Which is distinctly different from target and error. T&E is random IT is not. IN IT you get closer to your goals with each shot. See?? Think Big. We do!
Best Regards, Jay One Drop Creative Team R&D Department Please no plastic yoyos. Please.....just.....no.
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:50 pm |
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Jay
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:42 am Posts: 376 Location: Eugene Oregon
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Vendetta, I was only half serious, we don't make plastic yoyos. Not to worry :^).
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:28 pm |
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Vendetta
Joined: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:22 pm Posts: 2478 Location: California
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 Re: White M1
Jay wrote: Vendetta, I was only half serious, we don't make plastic yoyos. Not to worry :^). Good to hear. 
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:08 pm |
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Jay
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:42 am Posts: 376 Location: Eugene Oregon
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 Re: White M1
Breaking News on White M1 Yoyo.
Shawn has come up with a way to make a white M1! Actually it was someone else that thought it up we just "discovered" it. No promises on whether or not we will actually do a run of white M1s but at least now we know it is possible. The technique involves laser engraving over a blue anodized finish. Where the laser removes the blue anno, it leaves behind a very thin coating of aluminum oxide which along with the residual blue anno gives the appearance of being white. It is basically an optical illusion. But a very effective one. The "actual" color of the yoyo is grey, but it looks white under most normal lighting conditions. Way to go Shawn!
Best Regards, Jay One Drop Creative Team R&D Department
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| Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:44 pm |
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vguitars
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:05 pm Posts: 2971 Location: Cleveland
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 Re: White M1
Sign me up...  I'll beta test the longevity of it.. 
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TCK
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:20 pm Posts: 1327 Location: Cloverdale, California
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 Re: White M1
I am so down for that... now where do we get a "laser" 
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The Machinist
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:43 pm Posts: 1599 Location: Eugene, Oregon
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 Re: White M1
For those wondering, it was the Kyo Senza Nome that had this effect on the rim. It's purdy. 
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Tristan Phone
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:27 pm Posts: 31
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 Re: White M1
If there are 11 colors that the M1 can be purchased in, what is the difference between those colors and white? What makes white so special?
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Mitch G.
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:48 pm Posts: 407
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white yoyos are teh coolest
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