Hey everyone! I decided to not only write about my idea but make a.... "brief" video explaining what my concept and idea is for my Code 2 entry. So you can watch it, read it, or if you really really want to you could do both!
So here is the video:
Thanks to my beautiful girlfriend for filming this! What a trooper.
And here is the pics and me talking on the internet!
The 'Stache The 'Stache is a shortened and convenient way to say Mustache. I chose this name because my goal for this yoyo was to bring the greatness of a mustache to everyone. I greatly enjoy having a mustache but it was a struggle to be able to grow one. However, it is very fulfilling to finally have one and yet my soul is not satisfied! This is because sometimes when I meet strangers they tell me how they can't grow a mustache and wish they could, or how they think mustaches look cool but they're afraid of the awkward social cues that could come about from having one. I have now realized a solution to this problem. By designing a yoyo that would hopefully become a persons "daily throw", they will also be carrying a mustache around with them wherever they go! This yoyo will spread the movement of Mustaches for Everyone.
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The Specifications Diameter: 56 mm Width: 42.6 mm Base weight of Halves with bearing and string: 60 g Total weight with side effects: 64 g Response type: Flow Groove Finish: solid anodizing with Soda Blasting
As you can see this yoyo shape has a larges proportion of middle weight followed by a good amount of rim weight using a IRG lip. I liked this H-shape design because it allows for a large catch zone area that is usefiul for relaxed and competition play. My idea behind the middle weight was that it would allow the yoyo to be played fast or slow without the user having to really push the yoyo to play in either style.
Summary this is literally the first CAD draw -up of a yoyo I have ever done and there is definitely room for improvement so if you can think of any advice to give it is greatly appreciated! Thanks for taking the time to look at my proposal! --Jordan Hacherl (PS: the pictures of the 'Stache effect cut-away will be in the next post, to many attachments!)
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Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:16 pm
J Mackerl
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
Here is a cutaway of the 'Stache effect:
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Obviously the side effect isn't exactly to scale but I was basically thinking of a hub that was raised on the edges and then sloped down into the body of the side effect, ending in a flat V shape.
and here's another 'Stache picture from the front:
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
Great design! Your video was fun to watch! And I love the look of the 'Stache effect!
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Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:35 pm
da5id
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
Nice. Love that you did a video.
Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:46 pm
Vendetta
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
I'm pretty sure I need to support this yoyo based on principle alone. Awesome job Jordan!
I'm a fan of rim weight myself, but at 56mm, the yoyo typically has enough momentum out at the rims that you don't need as much rim weight. That's my experience, anyway.
Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:53 pm
J Mackerl
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
Thanks guys! Yeah once it hits 56 mm there is definitely a lot of different weighting options.
I'm taking a liking to yours Mark! That design is way too genius.
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Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:35 pm
BABBYlonian
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
Captain Gnar wrote:
Thanks guys! Yeah once it hits 56 mm there is definitely a lot of different weighting options.
I'm taking a liking to yours Mark! That design is way too genius.
Many thanks! I just need to refine it to make both forms more playable. Some kinks to iron out and then it'll be up to David and Shawn if they can produce it. (I'm sure they can. They can probably make a robot that'll conquer the world....or maybe they've already done it?)
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Haha yeah I saw the Irony shape too once i finished it which is really odd since i wasn't even thinking about that yoyo when designing this one! Funny how that works.
When i was first designing this yoyo I wanted it to be more curvy but i was still trying to figure out the CAD program i had, so here is a slightly modified design: Cutaway:
So how is this? Better or worse in people's opinion? I like this design more but I fear the curves might be hard for machining.
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Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:22 am
da5id
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
String cutter. Need a radius where the catch zone transitions to the guts.
Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:37 am
Vendetta
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
da5id wrote:
String cutter. Need a radius where the catch zone transitions to the guts.
Details details.
I like the first one better. It looks like it will play better and be more comfortable.
Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:22 am
alfredomascali
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
First design looks like a timid yoyoskeel stalker to me. I love mine, but maybe it's too big and wide, and I dont know if i got a b-grade but it woobles a bit. I think it would work better than the second, at least more comfortable.
The curve in the catch zone in your 2nd model is huge!!!
...I like the first one better. It looks like it will play better and be more comfortable...
same here
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Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:29 pm
J Mackerl
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
Well if it ain't broke then don't re-think it! Thanks for the input guys!
Now I'll have to start working on my mustache design. I'd like it to go in the catch zone area but I think it might be a string saw if put in that area. Any thoughts?
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Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:15 pm
J Mackerl
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
Alright so the 'Staches 'stache will hopefully look something like this:
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A nice classic Mustache that never goes out of style. I decided that with it just being an outline if you laser engraved the design into the catch area close to the rims it wouldn't cut strings. That's my thinking at least!
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Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:13 pm
Vendetta
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
I have a friend...his name is "Mustache Pete". Seriously. He does art occasionally and sells it, and it is all about mustaches. It's awesome.
Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:46 am
victorkaxx
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
I think putting the 'stache just under the side effect on the 'stache will be 46% cuter and 87% more likely to attract females.
Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:31 am
bretterson
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
I think the 'stache should go above the side effect so you can hold it up under your nose.
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Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:03 pm
J Mackerl
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Re: Jordan Hacherl: The 'Stache! A Code 2 Entry.
So here is my initial design with some minor and other tweaks.
I decided to add a bit more rim weight to help out with spin times. I also want to explain my design idea a little bit more, the main complaint I hear about larger diameter throws is that they feel slower or more sluggish than a smaller diameter throw. By placing so much weight in the middle area of the wall of the 'Stache, the yoyo will feel fast and agile like a smaller diameter throw but still benefit from the increased spintimes of a larger diameter throw. This way you get a great competition yoyo or a great yoyo to try out new trick ideas on.
I also added more rim weight and added a slight step, this will help reduce spin loss from the string since it is actually raised off of most of the wall. Check out this sweet diagram!
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